Category: Let's talk
Congressional Republicans are manufacturing a crisis to force decisions that hurt working families while helping the rich and corporations. They would rather cut education and vital services for middle-class and low-income people than close loopholes for Wall Street, drug companies and the wealthiest 2% of Americans.
Once again, Republicans are holding America and our economy hostage. Their plan does nothing to create jobs. It doesn’t invest in America’s infrastructure and education, raise wages reduce inequality or increases economic security for working people. It protects the wealthiest Americans from paying their fair share and will send us into a deeper recession.
We’re asking our elected officials to stand up to the bullies by:
Opposing benefit cuts to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid;
Closing loopholes for Wall Street and the wealthiest 2% of Americans and canceling sequestration.
And we’re asking you to tell Congress to put working families first. Call your representative now: 888-659-9401.
This is the reason why I don't label myself Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Conservative. It's embarrassing how they spend more time bashing each other rather than trying to come up with a compromise to fix this country's problems. I strongly refuse giving either side my support.
who ever, you forgot to put,
paid for by obama for america
You also forgot to put the wording of the proposition, any evidence that it actually exists, any evidence that this is the actual purpose of the proposition, and any reasonings for it. Personally I think a lot of the things you listed are good things. Taxing the rich less is a good thing in the long run. Who do you think owns all the businesses your middle class families work for? And guess who will be more than happy to cut the wages of those families who work for those businesses if those businesses start failing to turn a profit because the owners are being taxed more? What exactly is a rich person's fair share? Because I garrantee it, what they pay in a year, even with the tax breaks they get, is more than you make in several years, and more than you've probably ever had to write a check for.
Anyway, I digress. If you want my support, present an argument, not just a bunch of rhetoric. Rhetoric will get you nowhere without defenses and evidence.
Go look it up. I am not going to sit here and spoon feed you. That's what google is for.
You won't spoon feed us, yet you will try and force your union and political beliefs down our throats? Seems a bit absurd to me, personally.
What about your so great NFB? You can't tell me they aren't a union.
How many conventions have you actually gone to? Are you going off rumors that you've heard about how God aweful the NFB is? If you haven't gone to a single one, you can't say anything, because you don't honestly know about the NFB and its intentions. I never said your union was good or bad, but the fact that you are all about it and are constantly posting about unions really turns me off to giving it a chance.
And like you all here aren't all about how great the NFB is and how great voc rehab is and how such wonderful gifts they give you. Gag me and stop kissing so much ass.
Nah, I'd rather continue doing that instead of kissing up to some union like some.
No, the NFB is a federation, not a union. That's why they have the little F in there. If they were a union, you'd have to pay to join them, which you don't.
And if you don't care enough to even support your argument, why the hell would I care about your argument? You'll waste my time with your board post, but you won't take five extra minutes to give evidence for your argument? Ok, I'll give your argument exactly as much consideration as you did. That is to say, absolutely none. You don't have the talent to argue, I don't care about your opinion. I love when things are so simple.
I just love know it all college kids who think they know everything.
I could have said the same thing you just said about being an ass kisser to the union, but why bother. The NFB and Rehab all have the intentions of helping people. I'll admit I don't know everything, and that goes for any human being whether they will admit it or not. Some are smarter than others, in their own ways. Some think they are smarter but truly aren't.
That does bring me to an interesting point. Some people rely too heavily on the NFB and other such resources. Whereas if I need something such as a cane that is a necessity for me to travel safely without getting hurt, I turn to them. If I need some advice, I ask an affiliate of theres. Ever since attending one of their centers, I've seen the great things they do, and of course, I don't agree with everything members of the NFB do. I don't see the point of trash talking the ACB and other programs of the sort, because they will keep doing what they do just like the NFB does and other organizations.
However, my point here was to make you consider the fact that anyone can say anything about an organization they want, but there will always people who will attest to your opinions and bring up their own. I don't see that as ass kissing, do you?
Well, there's really no point in me even posting on these topics anymore, because I'm being ignored now. I tried talking sensible but I guess to some its nothing more than one heeping, rotten, smelly pile of dog shit. At least I tried, but no point if he/she can't hear what I have to say obviously.
I love when people say that kind of thing about college kids, when they haven't said one single fucking thing of their own. Try having one independent thought and be able to back it up, then come talk to me. When you can debate an idea half as well as I could on a bad day, then you can talk. Until then, shut the fuck up and learn something.
I am at least professional enough not to use profane language. I did not talk like that to you and it makes you look like a complete asshole.
Oh cry me a river. I don't care about your feelings or whether you think my language was profane or not. Honestly your board posts are worth that kind of language. You've posted nothing but drivel, insulted a good percentage of the blind community in several ways, belittled us, and not answered a single one of our questions on this or any of your other board posts. You're a waste of space on here.
And news flash moron, professionals can actually back up their claims. You weren't professional, what you were was civil. I just don't respect you enough to think you deserve civility anymore.
musician, please, for once, take this advice, shut up, and go waste your time, I mean, spend time with those union people you care so much about.
I will spend my time how I want to spend my time and no I won't shut up! I have just as much right to be here as anyone else!
hey labor union girl, lets just relax shall we? don't feed the flames, you'll do it no good. by feeding the flames you'll just create more heat to deal with. why don't you take the olive branch I am extending, because I truly want to discuss issues with you. forgive me if I show any rudeness at all in wanting to learn more about your side, being having a poised mind maybe being on your side one day. I don't want to follow ideology blindly you see, I don't want to just repeat lines, in order for me to join your side, I want to be educated, is that not the most persuasive kind of union organizer? or do you disagree? not merely the bots who can repeat lines over and over to people but the people who can move and persuade others. many have said I have great potential, and I am bringing my potential to you, my friend, I am saying to you make me an union organizer expert and maybe then I can be on your side adequately. As I have said to you on another thread, I am oh so desperate to join yoy, and oh so desperately to join you all on the right note, but I do not wish to step a foot in to your establishment as an ignoramus, do you not agree those are the worse sorts?
now, enough of this plea of mine. it is time for you to educate me, my good friend.
I thought that we might start out with this, of course I don't agree with cody's attitude, nor do I agree with all his questions, but I believe to persuade us you must let us look at the source which you're persuading us against? do you not agree? If we don't have that, and we don't know about it, what incentive do we have to fight against it? If we can't see nor do we know the evils of the legislation how are we suppose to stir up our passions? How are we to be wise in front of our congressman or senators if we don't even know what we are suppose to be protesting against in full by giving them a call? They probably heard slogans a million and one times before, and are not willing to listen to those anymore. I want to be educated enough to speak in front of them well. do you agree with me that is important? since you brought up the issues maybe you should ssupply the bill or some text or how are we suppose to be inspired enough? I don't really think any of us here understands how or why this thing is so evil, partly because we have not ourselves seen it. So, I believe if we can see it more of us would be moved to action as you were. you saw the situation and was moved, none of us has gone through as much as you have perhaps and see no need too and reading this bill will help us see one dimension of it. we can start acting from this point. it is really not effective to just hear you make these accusations. or summarize their work in your own work. It is better I believe to read primary sources, do you not agree? to see the adversities ourselves then listening to a recount or an accusation of it.
Very well said fellow worker, and thank you.
That does not answer her questions. Try again.
I an glad you agree with me but I had asked you some questions? haven't I? do you not agree with me that you should anser them?
None of our questions have been answered, so don't have high hopes. Plus, if you ask the wrong questions in her view, or you say something she doesn't like, she'll ignore you as she did me. Just goes to show how far sensible talking gets you on here.
she..... ignored....... you? that's just not right! what have you said that is so offensive?
union labor girl, If you deem yourself to be so kind why do you ignore innocent questioners?
All I've done is stated my opinion on the matters. No name calling or insults.
What the other commenters want are numbers to substantuate your claims that Corporations and the wealthy are the true source of the fiscal deficit in Congress. The inference is being lost without proper sufficient information just comes across as just a rant for there is a section for elsewhere. So, I'm of your own political persuasion not always just like in 08 that I voted for Mccain not anymore though maybe try to listen to htier arguments okay?
I was wondering something on unions that of employment of disabled workers. Do unions hire many disabled workers? I have a feeling like other large groups that they do not like corporations or others dont' either in large droves especially not of the blind. Anyways, I'm sorry not meaning to take over your thread just thought that it was to help in some small way to understand how unions are connected to the disabled?
No no, no problem. Union jobs hire disabled people yes, and we union members are much more open-minded to disabled people. the United Food and Commercial Workers has a great many disabled members to name one as an example.
yes, I see, my fellow zoner, selective reasoning. now if you claim to be so interested in helping people isn't to help people supplying answers or is it ignoring people, I think you would agree with me that this means to supply answers? would avoiding our question not seem like the opposite to you?